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'Obvious' theorem, hard proof

Callan
Post Icon Posted: Submitted by Callan on 30 April 2009 - 11:23pm.

Joined: 2008-09-30
Posts: 173

In the same vein as the most counterintuitive theorem awards, which theorems do people think seem obvious (or are generally declared as such) and then have quite tricky proofs? I'll get it going with the Jordan curve theorem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_curve_theorem ) although I personally am not convinced it is that 'obvious' a statement myself (hence the quotation marks around obvious). Specifically, I could imagine there being some quite pathological Jordan curves. Anyway, what does everyone else think (bearing in mind, given the right machinery, some statements do become quite obvious)?

owen.daniel
Post Icon Posted: 1 May 2009 - 7:31am

Joined: 2007-10-07
Posts: 93

On the same topic as above: in researching for my essay I discovered an interesting result concerning the game of Hex.

The Hex Theorem states that every complete game of Hex must result in a win. There is however a stronger result which depends on the Jordan Curve Theorem that states that there is a winner... i.e. one of the players wins, not both. This certainly seemed to me to be more obvious than the initial fact.

Owen.

ka7th
Post Icon Posted: 10 May 2009 - 3:54pm

Joined: 2007-10-08
Posts: 107

is the a similar theorem for tic tac toe, that states if both players make perfect play then the game is a tie

cosmin
Post Icon Posted: 10 May 2009 - 5:15pm

Joined: 2006-11-02
Posts: 1291

Yes.

Sleeping Yeti
Post Icon Posted: 18 May 2009 - 3:40pm

Joined: 2007-03-03
Posts: 196

What about Tiddlywinks?

ka7th
Post Icon Posted: 22 May 2009 - 11:21am

Joined: 2007-10-08
Posts: 107

or even chess

cosmin
Post Icon Posted: 22 May 2009 - 6:18pm

Joined: 2006-11-02
Posts: 1291

As well as the the fishbase search problem...