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If kronecker was right, I am depressed.

Post Icon Posted: Submitted by Newtonswig on 11 March 2008 - 11:22pm.

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Gradually I feel it filling the exec, insubstantial as the aether and twice as pointless. Our talks coordinator is a number theorist and our social sec is teetering on the brink- soon every Dg will be little more than counting colours and pratting about with primes. These parlour games must stop in favour of proper maths!

I have a small predjudice on the subject (my parents were killed in a freak L-function accident- pretty much the same deal as batman), and I believe it is time to kill the waif-like half-maths beast that walks among us. Pitchfork, torch in hand- stand up and be counted- are you with me, or against me?

(Cosmin wins!!)

‹ PBIG's Conjecture Plausible nonsense... ›
 
Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 1:50am

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(P.S. This is more fun than I thought :P)
    Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 4:46pm

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      Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 5:16pm

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      And Cosmin was saying the general inaccesibility of this forum was overrated... :p
        Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 5:29pm

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        I'm going to push a hardline of set theory and topology to combat the wasting disease that is number theory
          Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 9:57pm

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          Topologists are essentially the nazis of mathematics... :P
            Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 10:14pm

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            Don't say that, Topology is totally awesome.
              Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 10:23pm

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              But topologists are always open minded!
              [topology pun (sorry)]
                Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 10:32pm

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                Don't say that, Topology is totally awesome.

                Topology $ \neq $ Topologists

                I was obviously not bashing topology itself because it would have been taking the exact attitude to which I was refering.

                But topologists are always open minded!

                But in a topological sense that's perfectly compatible with them being totally closed-minded as well! :P
                  Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 10:43pm

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                  Nazi: relating to or consistent with or typical of the ideology and practice of Nazism or the Nazis.

                  At no point did we advocate massive centralisation, Ideologically perverting the philosophies of Nietsche to justify the murder of 6 million jews and countless others in the misanthropic name of elitism.

                  Number theorists on the other hand...

                  But in a topological sense that's perfectly compatible with them being totally closed-minded as well! :P

                  A set is closed if and only if it's complement is open, but we have already asserted that a topologists mind is open, which implies it is either the empty set or the whole set (ie. maths). It cannot be the empty set, since every topologist knows that cosmin smells. We are forced to conclude that topologists are omniscient. QED

                  P.S. Godwin's law.

                  YOU LOSE!
                    Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:11pm

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                    I believe it is time to kill the waif-like half-maths beast that walks among us.

                    to combat the wasting disease that is number theory

                    The topologist's basic view of anything non-continuous is that it's sub-mathematical and should be eradicated. That's a fairly good analogy to a certain side of nazism.

                    which implies it is either the empty set or the whole set (ie. maths)

                    Since when? For all you know this may be the discrete topology. :p

                    P.S. I dare you to find a more characteristically elitist type of mathematician. :D
                      Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:12pm

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                      Yes, although I'd like to side with Tom here, I'm a bit dubious about the claim "a topologists mind is open, which implies it is either the empty set or the whole set".
                        Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:36pm

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                        I am entirely indiscrete cosmin. My mind is connected complex subset.
                          Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:39pm

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                          I have to agree with Cosmin on this one, his argument is very compelling. Topology is clearly inferior to number theory.
                            Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:42pm

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                            The forums aren't haunted...
                              Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:46pm

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                              My mind is connected complex subset.

                              Prove it! Prove it! etc.
                                Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:47pm

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                                Why would anyone want maths to be made up of only one subject? That'd just be boring...
                                  Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:53pm

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                                  Tom surely your mind isn't connected (due to schizophrenia for example...) and the subset of it that relates to maths is open. Therefore there must be a topology finer than the trivial topology on it. So topologists don't know everything (sadly).
                                    Post Icon Posted: 12 March 2008 - 11:54pm

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                                    Number theorists on the other hand...
                                      Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 12:26am

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                                      No reply in 30 mins must mean I w1nz0r!!1!one!
                                        Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 12:30am

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                                        Well no, you would be the first to know that taking a sentence out of it's context and giving it a totally different meaning isn't going to prove you right, I'm sure you would've heckled to death anyone else who did that :p

                                        (wearing a master of the obvious-proof coat so don't try)
                                          Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 12:37am

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                                          It's not as if I actually thought "I" was right though, was it? :p

                                          I still win at being the better troll. I'm sure Frank agrees wholeheartedly.
                                            Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 12:39am

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                                            I was wearing that coat so you fail
                                              Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 12:49am

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                                              I had the same coat made out of antiparticles...

                                              I take that back anyway. I declare the winners to be Jon and PBiG.
                                                Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 12:53am

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                                                I declare the winners to be the set of all persons that are not isomorphic to Frank
                                                  Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:00am

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                                                  The intersection of the two is what counts and that's PBiG and Jon. :p
                                                    Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:02am

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                                                    Wrong, the former isn't in the intersection.
                                                    (/rude comment of the day)
                                                      Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:04am

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                                                      :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O

                                                      (Also, forgot to mention that Prof1 loses even more than everyone else)

                                                      P.S.

                                                      And Cosmin was saying the general inaccesibility of this forum was overrated... :p

                                                      Re-reading this thread, you couldn't have been more right. :D
                                                        Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:27am

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                                                        Where's the balls of cheddar?!
                                                          Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:29am

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                                                          And in any case, I'm pretty sure that Time Cubism is a slightly more elitist subject than topololgy
                                                            Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:29am

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                                                            Indiscrete topology, remember ?
                                                            Oh, whatever.
                                                              Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:30am

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                                                              No. Gene Ray is actually a topologist. He hates singularities and stuff.

                                                              Also, Balls of Steel should officially be renamed Balls of Cheddar! :D
                                                                Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:45am

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                                                                And I thought you were a real man...
                                                                It's not forever anymore for you then ?
                                                                  Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:52am

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                                                                  What isn't?
                                                                    Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 1:55am

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                                                                    Forever of course.

                                                                    Edit : Cosmin with power is scary

                                                                    (Let's leave it like that shall we ? :p)
                                                                      Post Icon Posted: 13 March 2008 - 2:04am

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                                                                      That's actually what I thought you meant but I don't see why it shouldn't be forever (in fact, I'm lying, number theorists have all already played and finished Duke Nukem Forever). Also:

                                                                      I don't mean to push our luck but how did gossip and number game get locked but this thread is living and breathing? Is it the life of "Maths". This has gone off topic like a politicain in trouble.

                                                                      Edit: You locked a thread. :O

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